Entrevista: Noel Gallagher na NME

Tradução: Rayza Giardini

Ele ri, em bom espírito, Noel Gallagher se senta com um capuccino em mãos no Electric Cinema em Portobello. Cinco minutos atrás, ele quebrou o seu longo silêncio sobre o Oasis e lá em baixo jornalistas estão freneticamente noticiando a conferência para os quatro cantos do mundo.

Claro que muitos deles se preocupam com seu irmão e com a sua banda muito bem formada. Sua chegada no palco foi acompanhada da surpreendente notícia de que não há apenas um, mas dois álbuns a serem lançados, significa que há muito menos difamações do que qualquer um poderia esperar. Ele poderia ter quebrado o gelo com a frase “Vamos à batalha”, mas a verdade é que o primeiro encontro solo de Noel Gallagher com a mídia passou longe de ser uma guerra.

Seu veredicto? “Eu pensei que seria mais um banho de sangue. Achei que foi tranquilo, na verdade. Depois de dois minutos, quando a primeira questão foi sobre a Beady Eye eu pensei ‘Ok, lá vou eu’. Mas foi bem tranquilo. Não o que eu esperei”.

Nesse aspecto, a reaparição de Noel Gallagher aos olhos do público poderia ser dificilmente diferente do que a do Liam. Principalmente porque, bem, seu irmão mais novo nunca saiu da banda. Imediatamente seguindo o fim do Oasis, Liam lançou-se em várias entrevistas ostensivamente para promover sua marca Pretty Green. Ainda enquanto essas conversas podem ter começado sobre parkas, sendo impaciente como Liam, as entrevistas sempre acabavam sobre o Oasis, Noel, ou a banda que ele, Andy, Gem e Chris estavam montando, e com o último trecho terminando, inevitavelmente, como manchetes. O efeito foi que a Beady Eye – antes que eles ou qualquer um soubesse que eles iriam chamar Beady Eye – ganhou uma fama muito pública.

Mais entrevistas para promoverem “Different Gear, Still Speeding” seguiram, significando que Noel agora se encontra de volta à frente de um Dictaphone com o apetite do público por informação como o que aconteceu com o término (um tablóide perguntou a Noel sobre a chaleira elétrica e porque ela está listada como um instrumento no papel recebido pela imprensa. Noel, rindo, responde que ele vai comprar uma mais tarde). E reintroduzindo-se em uma conferência significa que sua opinião sobre o acontecimento está agora imortalizado no Youtube, em caso de qualquer futuro entrevistador esquecer.

“Penso que se eu disse isso uma vez, está lá e eu não tenho que falar sobre isso novamente… Indo para todo o lugar do mundo você tem que dizer isso constantemente, e eu não tenho que dizer isso novamente. Está feito… Bem, eu não direi que eu dei a minha versão dos acontecimentos, eu disse a verdade sobre o que aconteceu. Nós podemos continuar agora. Esse foi o propósito principal. Foi anunciar os dois discos, sim, mas não foi pra dizer: ‘Estou de volta’ Só não quero ficar falando toda vez sobre Paris porque é muito chato. Então foi tipo ‘Vamos tirar isso do caminho'”.

O que não quer dizer que não existem questões a serem respondidas. E também, após conversarmos sobre o White Denim – “Muitas pessoas têm dito: ‘você tem que ouvir isso’. Mas não, desculpe, um lixo” – É hora de começar.

NME: Duas das músicas no seu novo álbum “I Wanna live a dream (in my record machine)” e “Stop The Clocks” você disse primeiramente que eram para estar no ultimo álbum do Oasis, mas não estiveram porque durantes as sessões em Los Angeles ‘foi a hora do Liam de gravar o vocal mas ele se mandou pra Londres para se casar e não contou para ninguém’. Ele, de qualquer forma, insistiu que você tinha guardado as melhores músicas para o seu álbum solo.
Noel Gallagher: Bem, o Liam fala muito, não fala? Pergunte ao Andy e ao Gem, é o que eu diria para você. Infelizmente para o Liam, ele nasceu um mentiroso. Estas músicas foram gravadas em duas ocasiões separadas, para dois álbuns diferentes, e os vocais nunca estiveram completos. Eu regravei em um tom diferente para se adequar à minha voz. Elas são as duas músicas mais ‘Oasis’ do álbum. Mas qualquer coisa que ele fale é mentira.

Você também disse no passado sobre o single de estréia da Beady Eye – “The Roller” – que foi gravada em versão demo na época do Heathen Chemistry…
NG: Sim, eu lembro de tocar bateria em uma versão de The Roller. Eu sempre gostei dessa música. Tem uma versão dela comigo nela em algum lugar no cofre. The Morning Son surgiu na melhor parte dos cinco anos. Eu tinha ouvido algumas dessas músicas do Different Gear, Still Speeding antes.

Quantas delas?
NG: Eu diria, das músicas que estão lá, acho que reconheço o título de metade delas.

Você descreveu The Roller como “single número um”. Então porque essa música não estava, ou qualquer outra música da Beady Eye, em um álbum do Oasis?
Noel: “Millionaire” estaria no ultimo álbum, mas eu recusei na parte de “You’ve just got to know yourself”. Eu pensei: “Não, não vou querer isso mesmo”. Pensei que parecia The Charlatans. “The Roller”, é, eu sempre achei que seria um grande hit do Oasis, mas nunca passou do estágio de demo.

Então mesmo se, como você disse lá em baixo, você não tivesse ouvido o disco da Beady Eye, você ainda estaria ciente de muitas músicas do álbum.
NG: Sim, sim. E eu ainda os vi no Jools e no Live From Abbey Road.

Então se eles estiverem na TV, você não vai desligar?
NG: Não! Eu ainda me relaciono com Gem e Chris. Eu saí com o Chris para beber uma vez. Eles são meus amigos. Espero que eles estejam felizes fazendo o que estão fazendo.

E o Andy Bell? Ele parece estar claramente ausente quando você cita a lista dos membros do Oasis, tirando o Liam, com quem você ainda se relaciona.

NG: Bem, ele sentou na maldita sala em Paris aquela noite e não disse uma maldita palavra. Eu fiquei como: “Sabe de uma coisa? Não tenho tempo para pessoas desse jeito”. Não tenho nada contra ele, ele é um cara adorável e ótimo de estar junto em uma banda, mas realmente quando aconteceu isso. ele não se manifestou. Pensei: “Que merda, você senta ali e não diz nada enquanto a banda se implode na sua frente?”. Mas boa sorte pra eles todos, sabe? Sério. Toda sorte a eles.

Você realmente quer isso? Podem imaginar que você pode ter sentido um certo senso de alegria de ver que o último single ficou 71º lugar.
NG: Sabe, pra ser bem honesto, meio que me fez pensar diferente sobre isso. Eu pensei, “certo, que merda, talvez isso é o que pode acontecer comigo”, sabe? Então quando “The Roller” ficou em 30º ou alguma coisa assim…

#31 para ser exato.
NG: Quero dizer… Muitas pessoas pensaram: “Eu acho que você ficou feliz com isso”. E eu falei que não necessariamente, porque eu fiquei bem chocado. Eu achei que seria como os singles do Oasis. Então, obviamente, quem for lançar meu disco tem um trabalho a fazer. Eu fiquei impressionado.

Algumas pessoas pareceram um pouco chocadas, incluindo eles. Liam chamou isso de “reality check”.
NG: Mas eu não sei se isso é a posição que o single ficou. Não sei nenhuma informação sobre os singles vendidos. Nem mesmo sabia qual era o último single.

Isso não sugere uma abordagem diferente? Embora relutantemente, Beady Eye disponibilizou o download gratuito de Bring The Light, o que teve um impacto bem forte. Você sempre falou claramente como uma música não deveria ser dada de graça. Mas é uma época de mudar isso?
NG: Não, não. Sem downloads gratuitos. Eu valorizo a minha música. Eu não sento em um estúdio e não tenho todo o trabalho e falo: “Essa aqui é de graça”. Eu acho que se você compra a música, você como ouvinte valoriza mais ela. Eu só não gosto de downloads gratuitos, e é um fim disso. Eu conheço várias bandas que fazem. Algumas das minhas bandas favoritas fazem isso, como Kasabian por exemplo, mas não é uma coisa que eu consideraria. Eu não considerei isso no Oasis e nunca mudaria de ideia agora.

Como você lidou com o cara da banda You Me at Six que twittou sobre o álbum?
NG: É típico. No estúdio, você caminha pelo portão e há mais três estúdios e um lugar que você pode fumar um cigarro. Eu abri o portão, caminhei em volta do muro e eu imediatamente percebi pelo jeito que estavam vestidos que eles eram ingleses. Então eu estava no estúdio, nunca pensei sobre isso, e estava fumando um cigarro, eles estavam comendo churrasco. Nunca disse uma palavra a eles, eles nunca falaram comigo. Eu nunca nem ouvi o nome deles, nunca ouvi nada, e o acontecimento seguinte foi que a notícia explodiu e eu… Bem, fiquei impressionado que essa notícia durou tanto tempo pra sair dali. Mas sabe de uma coisa? Cuide da sua vida.

Você não confrontou com ele sobre isso?
NG: Bem, eles estiveram ali por alguns dias, mas não me preocupei com isso. Mas é só o negócio do twitter, não é? “Ooh meu Deus, eu acabei de ver Terence Stamp no Waitrose”.

Você acha que a mídia social desempenhou um papel no fim do Oasis? Liam twittou sobre você, e você o cutucou no seu diário da turnê, e vocês liam os posts um do outro.

NG: Eu não lia os posts dele. Nesse ponto eu nem mesmo tinha um computador. Eu nem mesmo lia o meu. Só enviava o meu e era isso.

Mas você sabe que isso irritava ele?
NG: As pessoas na Big Brother pediram pra eu fazer um diário da turnê, e eu fiz. Eu não sei se ganhar um NME Award por isso fez a cabeça dele. Eu não sei! (risos). Pareceu aumentar depois disso. Não me preocupei com isso, nunca li. Eu sei se ele estava falando mal, mas eu nunca falei mal dele ali.

Você disse na conferência que você se arrependeu de ter saído e que vocês poderiam nunca ter se separado. Entretanto, Liam disse recentemente “Oasis acabou. Até mesmo um homem cego poderia ver isso. Era: disco novo, fazer os clipes, turnês enormes, viajar. Eu estou feliz que essa rotina teve seu fim”.
NG: Bem, O Liam disse um monte de coisas como ‘viajar com o Oasis fez ele ter vontade de vomitar’. Era um grande circo e bla bla bla. E eu pensei “Sério? primeira vez que eu escuto isso”.

Então tinha mais coisa a se fazer com o Oasis?
NG: Você diz musicalmente?

É.
NG: Eu acho que as pessoas tinham parado de ouvir. Continuavam indo aos shows, mas tinham parado de ouvir. Se eu tivesse lá sentado e a coletiva fosse sobre o novo álbum do Oasis, bem, eu não estaria ali na coletiva, estaria? Seria: Oasis tem um novo álbum? E daí? É normal quando você tem uma banda por tanto tempo. Alguém liga se os Rolling Stones lançarem um novo álbum? Vão e vêem eles, né?

Então qual é o estágio que você sentiu quando estava gravando o Dig Out Your Soul?
NG: Bem, as pessoas não tinham parado de ouvir. Eu acho que a imprensa parou de ouvir. Mas nunca senti que estávamos no fim, porque metade disso, o álbum do High Flying Birds, foi escrito antes disso, então alguma coisa vai se infiltrar ali em algum momento. Mas é tudo uma retrospectiva agora, né? Quero dizer, não pensei em nada disso no momento.

O futuro, então: agora no ano que vem, qual é o tamanho dos locais em que você quer tocar? Wembley? Você está visando os mesmos níveis do Oasis?

NG: Nunca consigo me ver no meio de um palco em um estádio com um violão e lidar com isso por uma hora ou uma hora e meia. Acho que tenho isso comigo. Bandas têm mais poder do que um compositor. Quem foi o último artista a tocar no Wembley, solo? George Michael?

Macca provalmente fez isso.
NG: Mas ele estava nos Beatles… Bem, acho que eu estava no Oasis! Não sei. Ele foi um frontman pela vida dele inteira. Eu não. Eu não me vejo tocando em estádios. Não acho que a procura estará lá. Eu poderia fazer provavelmente numa arena em Manchester. Provavelmente. Mas eu não sei. Só vou ver onde isso vai. É uma posição boa de se estar, e eu não estou nessa posição desde o Definitely Maybe. Onde foi: “Nós lançaremos esse álbum, não sei o que vai acontecer”. Embora no Oasis você sabia o que iria acontecer. E é maravilhoso, mas qualquer coisa é possível e eu não vou impor nenhum limite a isso. Eu posso dizer seguramente: “Eu nunca estarei me aproximando de ser tão grande quanto o Oasis foi”. Nunca.

Você parece um frontman relutante, mas um artista solo muito disposto. Podemos dizer assim?
NG: Bem, eu estava bem ansioso com a ideia de fazer um projeto entre o Oasis, porque então quando não é definitavamente real, sabe? Mas olhe, eu não estou aqui pra ser maior do que o Cliff Richard ou qualquer coisa assim. É tudo novo pra mim. Como eu disse (na conferência), eu fiz shows solo antes, mas foi para caridade. Simbolicamente, é diferente. Para agora entrar em um palco, com músicas novas, e tentar – por falta de um termo melhor – vender elas pras pessoas, é um problema pra mim. Eu não deveria estar agora nessa posição. Não sou eu mesmo. Eu era o cara que ficava ali do lado, fazendo os backing vocals, tocando guitarra, e esse sou eu. Eu aperfeiçoei isso. E agora eu tenho que fazer uma coisa diferente. Mas eu não sou, sabe… Eu darei o melhor tiro que eu puder.

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  258. Beady Eye ‘Bring The Light’ (1.581.863 exibições) 8 meses atrás
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  260. eu nem vou entrar no mérito das discussões

    as vezes eu penso que esse bela guerra de insultos entre os Gallaghers são o máximo que eles estão podendo fazer para angariar alguns dólares a +

    o Noel vai tentar fazer alguma coisinha diferente, mas ao final parece impossível eles insistirem nesses projetos individualistas. Se o Liam no início pediu pro Noel fazer parte da The Rain, a tendencia é que o Noel peça agora pessa para entrar para a Beady Eye. Não resta dúvidas (a não ser que eles lucrem muito mais como está…)

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  263. enquanto as biscates perdem tempo discutindo aqui, liam e noel estão com o cu cheio de dinheiro. rere

  264. hahahahahahaha

    é hilário ver as “liamzetes” e “noelzetes” recalcadas no site…

    eu estou gostando de ambos projetos

    2 ótimos projetos musicais com suas qualidades e e defeitos, pois óbvio, não é o oasis!

  265. XILIQUEIROS,

    Dá uma olhada nos comentários e posts abaixo do video (pra quem sb ler inglês, quem não sabe: foda-se!) e vejam como discutir apropriadamente um tema. Sem xiliques!

    ————————————
    flashes-of-opinions
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    Whatever! I love this interview!!!

    liam has changed.. now he is funnier ..;D

    The way he said “Oasis spilt up man” you could tell that it was serious and that it has been hard. I like how Alan seems to be able to make everybody just talk about stuff and open up.

    Noel would never do an interview like this hahaha  <<<<<<< essa foi boa

    Best interview with Oasis members in 5+ years! Brilliant!

    ' Mommy & Daddy are fighting,mommy & daddy are fighting' hahaha love it

    its been awhile since I last saw them laughing away enjoying the interview. This is great.

    This is fuckin' great and funny. Don't usually dig the fake laughing, but it sounds alright here. It's nice to see such a chemistry between the lads. Top guys

  266. A VERDADEIRA E GRANDE MORAL DA HISTÓRIA: o que dá pra perceber pelo humor de todos é que alguém teve um xiliquizinho de 5segundos e azedou [pronto, cabou a banda]. Xiliquizinho igual aos fãs dELE quando vem aqui defendê-lo e depois fica mandando os outros limpar o cú do Liam.

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    xiliqueiros!

  267. A reação deles é uma piada só…

    versão do Andy: não começaram a discutir nem 5min e BOOOMMM

    e o Liam (dando muitaaaaaaaa risada)
    – Qando o Chris nosso bateriam chegou. Pronto! A banda já não existia mais! rsrs

  268. 7:30

    Beady Eye [Alan Carr: Chatty Man 1/2]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWFtGDEj6VQ

    Foi a maior de todas as entrevistas. O Carr ainda leu na íntegra (NA FRENTE DE TODOS, LIAM, GEM, ANDY) a carta de despedida do Noel. Dá pra dar boas risadas com a reação dele.

    RESUMO DA HISTÓRIA: NOEL = uma piada

  269. Esse Alan Carr é uma piada:

    falando com o Liam sobre os pedaços de guitarra que o Noel quebrou e o Liam gostaria de vendê-los em um leilão, o Carr [olha pro Andy e pro Gem] diz:

    – E vocês dois lá no andar de baixo, gritaram? Nossa! A casa vai cair. Mom and Da are fighting!!! Mom and Da are fighting!!! Mom and Da are fighting!!! (Papaei e Mamãe estão brigando!!!)

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  270. LIAM GALLAGHER: ‘NOEL IS A LITTLE BITCH’
    The younger Gallagher hits back in the pair’s ongoing war of words
    NME – July 28, 2011 8:50

    Liam said:

    I just know he lies. Noel wasn’t bullied out of the band. And then he writes a statement like that saying ‘Oh, I’ve been bullied out of the band’ and management and all that, and two days later, the people he reckons bullied him, and the people who weren’t listening to his little sob story, were around at his house having tea on his lawn. I’m just disappointed for him, and his fans… I have my [bad days] but Noel Gallagher can be a little bitch when he wants to be.

    Credits: http://www.nme.com/news/beady-eye/58308/photo/3

    #
    Fred diz:
    28/07/2011 às 10:02

    Ahhh mas o Liam deixou bem claro:

    “É mesmo desapontador para ELE e para OS FÃS DELE”
    (I’m just disappointed for him, and his fans)

    Resumindo: Noel = uma biscatinha

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    LOL = Laughing Out (very) Loud
    Responder

  271. Qualquer crítica ao Noel tirando o fato dele ter sua parcela de culpa do fim do Oasis é totalmente incabível e irracional, ele compôs as letras e boa parte do instrumental das músicas do Oasis (claro que junto com o batera,guitarra base e baixo), ele foi o maior responsável de vocês estarem aqui criticando ele (que ironia) porque foi por maior responsabilidade dele que você se tornou fã de Oasis e está comentando sobre ele.

  272. É engraçado que eu tenho certeza que a grande minoria dos fãs de “oasis” são os fanáticos pelo Liam, mas ele gostam de ficar fazendo barulho e falando besteira, bom Dont look back in anger não é Oasis já que o Liam não fez nada nessa música então hehe. (essa é uma direta ao senhor “(666)”).

  273. Eu fiquei confusa com o comportamento do Noel nessa entrevista. É inevitável não comparar o Noel versão 2011 com o Noel da época de ouro do Oasis. Como as pessoas mudam! Noel às vezes pareceu seguro, em outras inseguro, estava oscilando… Pelo menos foi a minha impressão. Achei também que ele deixou implicito nas respostas que ele ama muito o irmão, só não dá o braço a torcer, pra ver se o Liam aprende.
    Já o Liam sempre tenta passar o máximo de convicção possível nas entrevistas, e mesmo assim por vezes dá a entender que sente bastante a falta do Noel… é, fazer o que né? Briga de irmão é assim: um não dá o braço a torcer para o outro.

  274. O melhor comentário da semana:

    “1 word….DIDO”

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    1. Q vc nem sabe oq quer dizer. Né não? Diz aí kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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      E se bobear o Liam ainda escreveu DILDO errado, oq faria dele e de um lambe-saco como vc ainda mais estupidos.
      Eu quero q vc se foda duro numa tora, cuzão!

  275. nossa, bombou taaaaaaanto esses shows do beady eye. AEHIHIEOAHIOEAHIOAEHIO

  276. É meus amigos, esse trabalho do noel deve tá bem água com açúcar (ROCKLESS), e sinceramente acho que o albúm meia-boca da BDI deve ser melhor.

  277. A entrevista pra MOJO magazine é ainda MAIS interessante.

    Agora, fica evidente que Noel está confuso e nervoso em relação à recepção que o seu trabalho solo terá com o público. Pra ele, apesar de não ter de provar nada e ter afirmado isso na entrevista coletiva, é a chance de se afirmar como um verdadeiro ícone da música ou mostrar-se somente parte da grande banda, qu existiu por 15 anos, chamada Oasis.

  278. Noel tá em carreira solo, mas ele não põe os integrantes da banda dele no clipe. OH MEU DEUS! Ele é malvado prakrai…

  279. eu pelo menos não empurraria aquela loira na piscina, ao menos que eu pulasse junto com ela!!! AKA

  280. O Gem vai desempenhar o seu papel. Agora Sr. Noel Gallagher, sejamos sinceros: TCHAU!

  281. Acho que começou a bater um pensamento, tipo “MAS QUE MERDA EU FIZ ACABANDO COM O OASIS”.

    A BEADY EYE AGORA É O OASIS!!!! hehehehe

    Tantos rodeios pra uma conclusão tão cretina. Tá na cara que o Liam sempre foi o Oasis. Pode arrumar quantos e tantos forem os argumentos: lirismo, arranjos, clima circense, afff não tenho mais idade pra letras tolas, inovação, blablablablablabla

    Sempre vai bater o arrependimento:
    Agora a Beady Eye tem o controle nas mãos. Eu eu sozinho sentando aqui own my own. “MAS QUE MERDA EU FIZ ACABANDO COM O OASIS”. E o pior… não consegui acabar com ele.

    É isso
    Cheers

    1. Gente ignorante como vc deveria ser enviada pra lua.
      Liam é o Oasis kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk pois é. Ele q fez todos os hits da banda.
      Vai comer uma banana enqnto brinca de revoltado na frente do espelho, cuzão.

  282. Grande entrevista do Noel!!!! A cada dia sinto mais falta do Oasis, mas ao mesmo sei que talvez nunca mais verei uma chamada nas radios e televisões do show do OASIS apresentando um novo LP.

    Obrigado Rayza e Oasis News!!

  283. Sinceramente me parece humilde demais.

    Acho que começou a bater um pensamento, tipo “MAS QUE MERDA EU FIZ ACABANDO COM O OASIS”.

    É dessa forma que eu vi a entrevista.

  284. Tradução estilo Google Chrome!!!rsrrsrs… brincadeirinha, agradeço a pessoa que a fez.

    Quer dizer que The Roller e Millionaire seriam do Oasis?? E quais outra já estariam prontas e poderiam ser do Oasis??? Olha, to começando a achar que Beady Eye não se sustentará nas próprias pernas. Mesmo porque se você já tirar essas duas músicas, o DGSS que já não é um primor, fica pior.

    Mas como é chato o Noel tb né? Tirar Millionaire de um albúm do Oasis por causa de uma maldita e idiota frase. De qualquer modo, gostei da entrevista. Ele foi bem humilde e sincero.

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